Thursday, March 27, 2008

Science vs God

The other day Sanly sent me this email about an argument and I can't help but to share it here...

Science vs. God

"Let me explain the problem science
has with Jesus Christ." The
atheist professor of philosophy pauses
before his class and then asks one of
his new students to stand.

"You're a Christian, aren't you, son?"

"Yes sir," the student says.

"So you believe in God?"

"Absolutely."

"Is God good?"

"Sure! God's good."

"Is God all-powerful? Can God do
anything?"

"Yes."

"Are you good or evil?"

"The Bible says I'm evil."

The professor grins knowingly. "Aha!
The Bible!" He considers for a moment.

"Here's one for you. Let's say there's
a sick person over here and you can
cure him. You can do it. Would you
help him. Would you try?"

"Yes sir, I would."

"So you're good...!"

"I wouldn't say that."

"But why not say that? You'd help a
sick and maimed person if you could.
Most
of us would if we could. But God
doesn't."

The student does not answer, so the
professor continues. "He doesn't,does
he?
My brother was a Christian who died of
cancer, even though he prayed to Jesus
to heal him. How is this Jesus good?
Hmmm? Can you answer that one?"

The student remains silent.

"No, you can't, can you?" the
professor says. He takes a sip of
water from a
glass on his desk to give the student
time to relax.

"Let's start again, young fella Is God
good?"

"Er...yes," the student says.

"Is Satan good?"

The student doesn't hesitate on this
one. "No."

"Then where does Satan come from?"

The student : "From...God..."

"That's right. God made Satan, didn't
he? Tell me, son. Is there evil in this
world?"

"Yes, sir."

"Evil's everywhere, isn't it? And God
did make everything, correct?"

"Yes."

"So who created evil?" The professor
continued, "If God created everything,
then God created evil, since evil
exists, and according to the principle
that
our works define who we are, then God
is evil."

Without allowing the student to
answer, the professor continues: "Is
there
sickness, Immorality, Hatred,
Ugliness, All these terrible things,do
they
exist in this world?"

The student: "Yes."

"So who created them?"

The student does not answer again, so
the professor repeats his question.
"Who created them? There is still no
answer. Suddenly the lecturer breaks
away to pace in front of the
classroom. The class is mesmerized.

"Tell me," he continues onto another
student. "Do you believe in Jesus
Christ, son?"

The student's voice is
confident: "Yes, professor, I do."

The old man stops pacing. "Science
says you have five senses you use to
identify and observe the world around
you.

Have you ever seen Jesus?"

"No sir. I've never seen Him"

"Then tell us if you've ever heard
your Jesus?"

"No, sir, I have not."

"Have you ever actually felt your
Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your
Jesus?
Have you ever had any sensory
perception of Jesus Christ, or God for
that
matter?"

"No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't."

"Yet you still believe in him?"

"Yes."

"According to the rules of empirical,
testable, demonstrable
protocol,science
says your God doesn't exist.

What do you say to that, son?"

"Nothing," the student replies. "I
only have my faith."

"Yes, faith," the professor
repeats. "And that is the problem
science has
with God. There is no evidence, only
faith."

The student stands quietly for a
moment, before asking a question of his
own.

"Professor, is there such thing as
heat?"

"Yes," the professor replies. "There's
heat."

"And is there such a thing as cold?"

"Yes, son, there's cold too."

"No sir, there isn't."

The professor turns to face the
student, obviously interested. The
room
suddenly becomes very quiet. The
student begins to explain.

"You can have lots of heat, even more
heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited
heat, white heat, a little heat or no
heat, but we don't have anything
called
'cold'. We can hit up to 458 degrees
below zero, which is no heat, but we
can't go any further after that. There
is no such thing as cold; otherwise we
would be able to go colder than the
lowest -458 degrees.

Every body or object is susceptible to
study when it has or transmits energy,
and heat is what makes a body or
matter have or transmit energy.
Absolute
zero (-458 F) is the total absence of
heat. You see, sir, cold is only a
word
we use to describe the
absence of heat. We cannot measure
cold. Heat we can measure in thermal
units
because heat is energy. Cold is not
the opposite of heat, sir, just the
absence of it."

Silence across the room. A pen drops
somewhere in the classroom, sounding
like a hammer.

"What about darkness, professor. Is
there such a thing as darkness?"

"Yes," the professor replies without
hesitation. "What is night if it isn't
darkness?"

"You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is
not something; it is the absence of
something. You can have low light,
normal light, bright light, flashing
light, but if you have no light
constantly you have nothing and it's
called
darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning
we use to define the word. In reality,
darkness isn't. If it were, you would
be able to make darkness darker,
wouldn't you?"

The professor begins to smile at the
student in front of him. This will be
a
good semester. "So what point are you
making, young man?"

"Yes, professor. My point is, your
philosophical premise is flawed to
start
with, and so your conclusion must also
be flawed."
The professor's face cannot hide his
surprise this time. "Flawed? Can
you explain how?"

"You are working on the premise of
duality," the student explains. "You
argue that there is life and then
there's death; a good God and a bad
God.
You are viewing the concept of God as
something finite, something we can
measure.

Sir, science can't even explain a
thought. It uses electricity and
magnetism,
but has never seen, much less fully
understood either one. To view death
as
the opposite of life is to be ignorant
of the fact that death cannot exist as
a substantive thing. Death is not the
opposite of life, just the absence of
it."

"Now tell me, professor. Do you teach
your students that they evolved from a
monkey?"
"If you are referring to the natural
evolutionary process, young man, yes,
of
course I do"
"Have you ever observed evolution with
your own eyes, sir?"
The professor begins to shake his
head, still smiling, as he realizes
where
the argument is going. A very good
semester, indeed.

"Since no one has ever observed the
process of evolution at work and cannot
even prove that this process is an on-
going endeavor, are you not teaching
your opinion, sir? Are you now not a
scientist, but a preacher?"

The class is in uproar. The student
remains silent until the commotion has
subsided.
"To continue the point you were making
earlier to the other student, let me
give you an example of what I mean."

The student looks around the room. "Is
there anyone in the class who has ever
seen the professor's brain?" The class
breaks out into laughter.
"Is there anyone here who has ever
heard the professor's brain, felt
the professor's brain, touched or
smelled the professor's brain? No one
appears to have done so. So, according
to the established rules of empirical,
stable, demonstrable protocol, science
says that you have no brain, with all
due respect, sir. So if science says
you have no brain, how can we trust
your
lectures, sir?"

Now the room is silent. The professor
just stares at the student, his face
unreadable. Finally, after what seems
an eternity, the old man answers. "I
guess?you'll have to take them on
faith."

"Now, you accept that there is faith,
and, in fact, faith exists with life,"
the student continues. "Now, sir, is
there such a thing as evil?"

Now uncertain, the professor
responds, "Of course, there is. We see
it
everyday.
It is in the daily example of man's
inhumanity to man. It is in the
multitude
of crime and violence everywhere in
the world. These manifestations are
nothing else but evil."

To this the student replied, "Evil
does not exist sir, or at least it does
not exist unto itself. Evil is simply
the absence of God. It is just like
darkness and cold, a word that man has
created to describe the absence of
God.

God did not create evil. Evil is the
result of what happens when man does
not
have God's love present in his heart.
It's like the cold that comes when
there is no heat or the darkness that
comes when there is no light."

The professor sat down.

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